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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Fri 07 Feb 2014, 9:56 am

Back again, my words exactly.

Jagxclusive, I find the spirits go down easier than water, or cordial or hot drinks. I have to set a limit on consumption or it could become a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 03 Feb 2014, 2:23 am

generally I am not a drinker, but now I am wondering things... hubby always has a glass of wine with dinner, and before I had my last bub, I used to as well. ... the other day I found myself thinking... I'm thirsty, it's hot, I'm sick of water catching in my chest, I'm sick of cordial, I don't want hot tea or coffee and milk's too heavy.... hey, a cool bottle of pink roze would go down well.... and I could really go for that...  

As food cannot be my vice anymore, I wonder if alcohol becomes the 'pleasant' palatable option?
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Sun 02 Feb 2014, 11:15 am

maybe we could start a support group? I know I could lose more weight if I never had alcohol calories. (sleeved Nov 2012)
I started at 104, now 72 kg but was 69 before xmas.
Ideally I would like to get down to 65kg, I bet if I abstained from the wine/beer/g&t, I could make that in a month. Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:36 am

LMC - From the get-go, I've started viewing anything fizzy (non- or alcoholic) as toxic.  Call it a mind shift as I do miss it but ask myself if I want to drop a 'gas bomb' in my stomach?  Ummm - NO..!!!  I think I'm lucky as early on in my sleeve journey I thought I'd push the boundaries and tasted a very flat fizzy drink.  It hit me like a severe punch in the guts so, while I still yearn for fizzy, I don't want to experience that again.

Maybe everyone should do this early in their sleeve to get the bad experience out of the way - just kidding!!  Rather you take my word for it...
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:20 am

Thanks guys. I'm trying to cut down. I know that one of the main reasons I've put weight on is because of what and the amount I drink (bourbon pre-mix).

I've started drinking apple cider's if I do go and have a drink which have 135 calories each, and I'm trying to only have 2 if I do go.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Sun 02 Feb 2014, 4:20 am

Hi all,

"FebFast" is one of the dry months for the year including "Dry July" and "Ocsober".

I really like the idea of these things as it gives you something to tell people - even get them involved by sponsoring you for your charity of choice.
So the peer pressure instantly swings from drinking to abstaining.  How clever is that !

http://www.febfast.com.au/

Anyway, just a thought.
Tara

EDIT: Oooh just found another (although it's American).
http://www.soberfebruary.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Sun 02 Feb 2014, 12:54 am

Little Miss Cee

Good luck and all the best with your dilemma.  I too am finding that alcohol is going down too easily but I don't have the pressures that you do of living and working on site.  

For me, drinking might be unwinding or the social aspect, not sure.  It's not all the time and even before the sleeve, I had a 3 month dry spell - just to prove something to myself.  Then, obviously, another 3 months off while healing…

Most recently, I had 2 drinks 4 days ago and thoroughly enjoyed them but the eating/drinking timing was bad so I ended up not having any dinner - very very bad.  While it's not all the time, sometimes I can drink a fair amount in one sitting.  Not a proud achievement, and I'm certainly not starting off with that intention, it just happens that way.  Other times I can go out and not drink at all - crazy!!

The evil thing is that the weight loss that comes with drinking (not cocktails though) is good and, while I know that it is mostly dehydration, I don't seem to regain it all - kinda like a two steps forward, one step back.  In saying this, I know this is neither good nor sustainable.

The comments on here about swapping one addiction for another absolutely have merit.  I'm fairly positive I was a carb addict pre-sleeve as I loved my crackers, bread and pasta - still do but have to be careful.  

This forum is fantastic because everyones comments, suggestions and support really give me something to think about.

Take Care xx
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Thu 30 Jan 2014, 1:29 am

Hi Pandagirl,

Which site do you work at? I get away with not going to dinner quite easily, because, well, I never usually go to dinner. And our site is massive so it's not often noticed anyway.... Our site now is so big that it's not the end of the world if I don't come out for a drink every night, and being the start of a new year most people are on a get healthy band wagon so that's an excuse to use (why am I not using this myself???).

Do you plan on telling people at work that you're getting/had a sleeve done? It's a personal decision, but I have told everyone - I was sleeved 2 & half years ago, and I work on projects, so since then I'm now onto my 3rd site since being sleeved and have repeated my story time & time again - always met with a positive reaction. For me personally I'm like an open book and find it easier trying to explain my issues that I have with food & drink to those at work when I can put it down to having a tiny tummy - and most understand.

Good luck x
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:12 pm

Hi Everyone,

I was wondering the same thing. I'm a FIFO worker and its an extremely social thing to be drinking, eating (especially BBQ's) and I'm known for my fondness of Red Wine at the Wet Mess.

I'm 3.5 weeks away from my Op (25th Feb) and I haven't told anyone that I'm getting it done. I've tried to scale back the 'socialness' in the last swings and its really been noticed.A few people have been put out, but I've managed to allay it to  saying I'm having to do Skype calls (even though I'm perpetually single..), or having to get something for someone. 

The toughy is going to be not appearing for dinner! But its definitely coping with the non alcohol part. Hopefully when the weight starts coming off, I can use it for a better excuse and they can then see what no alcohol does (and next to no stomach!).

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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Wed 22 Jan 2014, 11:53 pm

Thanks for the replies everyone. I appreciate it.

It's not that I can drink a whole heap every night - we have a 4 drink limit on this site, everyone has a bar card which gets swiped each time you buy a drink.

I went to a BBQ last night and bought a bottle of wine (kicking myself for drinking it all... I was supposed to be stock piling for Sunday RDO and our Australia Day BBQ!)... Night before I stayed home and had a jarmie night and didn't drink at all.

Tonight is one of the girls birthdays, so of course it's birthday drinks.... Tomorrow night hopefully I will get enough will power to not drink... Saturday night is RDO night, Sunday is Australia Day... Now I'm just hoping like mad I'll be able to have a quiet week off the drink after Sunday.... Next weekend is my birthday, and we also have a 10 million hour LTI free party on site which includes free unlimited alcohol with Birds of Tokyo & Diesel being flown to site to play.

It never ends.... Neverrrr ends up here.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Wed 22 Jan 2014, 10:44 am

Hi LMC,

I've been thinking about your situation, it's really hard when you are living and working away from home and nightly drinking is the norm. I've had that experience in a job, one that was heavily male dominated.


It's tricky because the people you hang out with and work with are your mates and colleagues and you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by not joining in.

When it started taking a toll on me (weight gain, feeling crappy, getting sick all the time, poor dating choices) I found pulling back was easier if I could externalise the reason for my colleagues.

For a while I asked my manager to put me on early starts, which gave me a good excuse to bail early (or go home for a nap after work and get caught up in other things so I'd "forget" to go to a pub). I also told people I was saving hard and had to cut back on my spending so I'd be at the pub less.

All in all it was fine, I went often enough to be social and not a snob, but I paced my drinks (alternating as suggested below) and aimed for a set number of drinks per session (4 I think).

It got me out of the rut I was in and I realised that being a permanent fixture at the pub wasn't a requirement for most of my friends.

You could always tell people you are training for a charity fun run and ask them to run with you instead of going to the bar!

Good luck with it!
Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:25 pm

If you still want to socialise and go out with mates can you do a one day on one day off? I don't know if this works it just came to me. One day you drink alcohol and the next day sit on juice or softies likes others have suggested. That way you're cutting your drinking in half and most people, won't even realise. Then maybe you can change the ratio to less alcohol over time.
Just a suggestion.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:44 am

Can you swap the drink for something more suitable to you? -- eg, an orange and vodka without the vodka...  I never was much for drinks but my friends were, so to be able to socialize with them I always sat on the same juice for ages while they downed many alcoholic drinks. After the initial "you don't want another drink?" nobody  really cared.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 4:27 am

LittleMissCee wrote:
I live and work in the same place... I work and live on a construction site. It is an option, I just have an issue with saying no to stopping past the tavern first.
oh man lol, good luck then! i think the way we got ourselves overweight in the beginning was our inability to say no. gets us in to trouble huh.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 4:02 am

I live and work in the same place... I work and live on a construction site. It is an option, I just have an issue with saying no to stopping past the tavern first.
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:50 am

can you not go straight home after work? instead of sticking around for a drink? or is that kind of your social thing too?
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PostSubject: Re: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 1:27 am

I have no experience with this because I hated the taste of alcohol after my chemo and still don't enjoy it very much even now. Occasionally on a real hot day, I like a beer.

I have heard that there is a tendency to replace overeating with over drinking after WLS. Basically replacing one addiction with another. It's because of this that I suggest a visit to a psychologist. Maybe they can help with strategies to help cope with the pressure placed on you to drink in the society where you work and live.

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PostSubject: Issues with Alcohol   Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:40 am

Does anybody out there have an issue with alcohol, not necessarily since being sleeved (although I developed this after), but I mean as in either going on too many binges, or, regularly drinking far too much.

I'm not putting up this post to judge or berate others, as I am in this boat.

I work in an industry (FIFO) that is very social on site, and drinking every day (and yes I literally mean every single day) is a normal thing up here.

However, after doing this for the last few years, it's really taking a toll on my body, but after this being "normal" for me, I'm finding it really difficult to say no to drinks every night.

I've also given up smoking so I'm finding the drinking even more difficult. I'm at that point where I don't actually want a drink, but I just do it anyway.

Any tips on how to drag myself away from this? And please don't say go to the gym, lol. I go in the morning at 3.30am before I go to work as there is now 3,500 people on site and only 2 gyms. Arvo's are just far too busy.
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